Chris is joined on this episode by Mary Rice Hasson, the Kate O’Beirne Fellow in Catholic Studies at the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C. Mary also directs the Catholic Women’s Forum, a network of Catholic professional women and scholars seeking to amplify the voice of Catholic women in support of human dignity, authentic freedom, and Catholic social teaching. Chris and Mary take up the topic of gender ideology from the viewpoint of the law and lawmaking. Mary describes her recent testimony in opposition to the so-named “Equality Act,” and also shares what areas might be of concern to Catholic lawmakers and others of goodwill at the state level. Visit the Person & Identity Project, a work of the Catholic Women’s Forum, for more.